Get the Gist

Good Beer Hunting has added another podcast to it’s line-up.  A line-up that is hit or miss not at the series level but at the individual podcast level for me.  The Gist is hosted by Kate Bernot and Beth Demmon who are covering a really important area, the business of craft beer.

Plus, it is short!  Readers of this fine blog know that I am a huge fan of the under thirty minute podcast running time.  The banter and topics in the first two episodes have been good.  Timely and topical in two words.

Check it out via your podcasting platform.

Peel the Label – Good ZX Hunting

There is inside baseball and then there is inside the dugout baseball. It is one thing to know that Golden Road is owned by SABInBev, it is another to know that SABInBev owns ZX Ventures, the so-called “global disruptive growth unit” which bought out a home brew supply company last year. And then you have inside the locker room baseball when you know that the same ZX Ventures is part of a team that is producing a new web series of stories (along with Beer Graphs, Conde Nast, Pitchfork and Good Beer Hunting) under the rather plain moniker of “October”.

That last name, GBH is one of the blogs that I read on a regular basis. They have great long form pieces with some eye-catching photography. They have done some revealing work on the behind the scenes of beer getting from brewery to glass. I have attended one of their Uppers & Downers coffee beer events at Intelligentsia Coffee.

Setting aside that having that many media cooks in the kitchen can cause problems, it is the smell of Bud Money that is causing the bigger stir. If a well-read craft beer fan looked over the website without any background, they would probably say that it looks and reads like Good Beer Hunting. But when you hear that it is partially funded by the Belgian Corn Water Overlords, it makes people suspicious.

(Add to that my somewhat cynical view that having so many media entities involved is supposed to deflect negative attention away from GBH to the other participants.)

That “You’ve Been Bought Out” suspicion inevitably leads to a minor skirmish in the comments section of blogs. Some of which is trolling and/or name calling and completely counter-productive to an actual discussion.

With that prologue done, here are my two cents on the matter. (‘cause I gots opinions to spare)

1. I would not have so grandly linked GBH to “October” (also would not have called it October). Keeping them separate would have given the cover needed to quell the shill tag. In that proud announcement they likened the duo to Grantland (GBH) and ESPN (“October”). They left out that ESPN bought out Grantland and it promptly started swirling the drain and is now kaput. A metaphorical wall between the two makes sense since they are looking for different eyeballs.

2. Stop acting surprised. Seriously. Any taint of ABInBev or Miller (to a lesser degree) or Heineken (to an even lesser, lesser degree) WILL be met with disdain and people leaving the building. No amount of wordsmithing will make you immune to it. Craft beer fans DO NOT LIKE Bud. As Sean Spicer so eloquently put it, Period. You can claim and have journalistic credibility. You can put out great articles. But any positive mention of Industrial beer or large companies in general will be met with skepticism at best.

I will keep reading Good Beer Hunting because I believe that the quality won’t go down. I may touch down on the “October” site but it will be with a cocked eye because I can’t shake the realization that ZX Ventures would not throw their hand in without getting something positive out of it.

Peel the Label is an occasional series where I opine about the big picture of craft beer and blogging without photos, videos or links.

Year of Podcasts – Good Beer Hunting

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57 interviews with beer people are up (as of this writing) on the Good Beer Hunting podcast page. And it is an impressive roster. Garrett Oliver of Brooklyn Brewing, Patrick Rue of the Bruery and Randy Mosher as well.

I picked the latest episode to listen to.  Primarily because the interview subject was Jeff Gill from Tallgrass Brewing in Manhattan, Kansas.  I have had their canned beers at Canfest in Reno and really enjoyed their beers.  Secondly, the focus on the business side (primarily marketing) is of great interest.

The questions from blogger/host Michael Kiser were incisive but also folksy.  Maybe it is something in the water that makes Chicago people good interviewers. He has a good knowledge base that shows through without being snobby.  Though it breaks my rule about keeping it short, each episode that I listened to didn’t seem long.  I also like podcasts where there is laughter that doesn’t seem to come from inside humor.

I would suggest looking for breweries that you don’t know about and pick that interview to learn more about a place you haven’t been to.

In Thirst Returnum indeed!

Mostly Up

Last Saturday, I got to taste along with a hundred others, 8 examples of coffee beers at the Pasadena outpost of Intelligentsia Coffee.

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The event was titled Uppers & Downers and was brought here via the the beer website Good Beer Hunting.  We started and ended with Stimulus from our own Eagle Rock, in two different versions.  Regular and fully leaded with a shot of Intelligentsia espresso!  Both were my favorites of the night. Primarily, because both were coffee forward in comparison to most of the other offerings which were more coffee accented.

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In between, beers from Goose Island, Angel City, Stone, Firestone Walker, Port all made with varying degrees of coffee were poured as the brewers or brewery reps extolled the process of adding coffee to different styles of beers.

But the most anticipated by the crowd was Dark Lord from Three Floyds.

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Multiple vintages of the famed beer were in bottles, randomly my beer companion Richard got 2008 and 2010 which we shared and disagreed over which year was best.  I preferred the older because it had an additional “jammy” note that added to the wallop of sugar whereas the 2012 required a dental visit, it was that sugary.  Gotta say that this beer is quite over rated in my book.  I would go with Zombie Dust or Robert the Bruce or (name a 3 Floyd beer) before Dark Lord.

My anticipated beer was from Solemn Oath in Naperville.  I had my first beer from them on my Chicago trip and enjoyed it.  Less than a week later, I was having their None More Than Black, black IPA and talking to the brewer while enjoying it.  It took home my second favorite of the night award.  Of which there is no plaque.

The event had a nice showing and the venue worked as coffee practically hung in the air.  Mitch Steele from Stone and David Walker from FW talked with me for a bit, if I can be allowed to name drop.  Plus the assembled brewers regaled the crowd with their take on mixing coffee and beer.  The beer was fairly easy to get with minimal waiting which is a good sign for a new event in a space not primarily used for beer service.

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If you love Stimulus from Eagle Rock and have enjoyed Groundworks Coffee Porter from Smog City then this event is for you…

“October 19th, Intelligentsia in Los Angeles is partnering with Michael Kiser, the author and photographer behind Good Beer Hunting to bring together some of the industry’s most famous beers and brewers to discuss, discover, and drink what coffee and beer truly have to offer.

Kiser will lead a panel discussion with visionaries from Three Floyds, Solemn Oath, Lost Abbey, Stone, Firestone Walker, Angel City, and Goose Island. During the talk, we’ll be sharing tastes from a variety of styles, processes, and formulations for coffee beers that represent both the benchmarks and the future of the art. Because as good as some of these beers have gotten, there’s so much more that can be done when we understand the origins, characteristics, and processes of the ingredients in the glass.”

That is an eclectic list of breweries for one event.  And just the mention of Three Floyds gets beer geeks running.  But I am interested in seeing what Solemn Oath is about and what Angel City will bring to the table.